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Author:  Sidney Cecil [ Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:20 pm ]
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This topic has nothing to do what we have been taking about in class, however when I was watching the news this weekend I saw that a teacher down in Georgia had gotten in a fight with a student! It was all on tape and I was wondering if any of you have seen the tape and have any input on the issue. Im sure the teacher was teased and just pushed to the point of wanting to hit the student, but under no condition she should have never hit the student.

Author:  rachel mcree [ Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:22 am ]
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I did not see the teacher fight, but the teaher should have known better than to fight with a student. No matter how angry you are you can't give in to the students' immaturity. If the student has seen you break then they know they have won, that would just be a bad situation altogether. If I wasn't banned from teaching I would def go to another town/school.

Author:  Stuart McClure [ Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:57 am ]
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As Dr. Turner Mentioned in class Tuesday (3rd), as instructors, we will most likely encounter a student who "gets our goat" and deliberately instigates a reaction from us. I didn't observe the "fight" between the teacher and student, but I imagine it was a pretty awful situation for both the instructor, and the student.

I feel an ISS program or detention slip could deter or at least separate controversial situations such as this. In most cases, hopefully, redirection of the students learning and interests into an educational environment could prove distraction from the disruption -

Does anyone have any ideas of preventative measures for the disruptive student?

I'm hoping that we all agree that no physical contact during an argument is necessary, particularly between instructor and student!

Author:  Jonathan Hayes [ Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:32 pm ]
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I'm not sure if this is the original video Sidney was referring to, but I found this on YouTube...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXGZPQtaDdw

It sounds like from the video that that student hit the substitute teacher first, and perhaps the substitute teacher from that point on was acting in self defense. It is a bad, and unfair situation I believe for the substitute teacher. She says she would have handled the situation differently, but if the student attacked her and continually done so then the teacher has every right to act in self defense. But, in most situations its still going to be the students word against the teachers, as noted in the film the teacher was never contacted for an official statement on what happened. I think as teachers though if we are well rehearsed in behavior management then 99% of the these type situations can be prevented.

Its a touchy issue that could go both ways and I could see arguments from both sides of however one might feel about it. Hopefully none of us will be faced with this type situation.

Author:  Elliott Childress [ Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:29 pm ]
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I saw the video of this fight. From the video, there is no way of telling who started the fight. In any case, the student's word is usually held over the teacher's. I feel bad for the substitute teacher because I don't feel like she would lash out at a student, no matter what the student said or did.

However, I do feel like the teacher had a right to act in self-defense and if the opportunity had presented itself to disengage, I think she should have done it. But after watching the student grab her hair and refuse to let go, it didn't look possible for her to do so.

This is a very touchy subject and I hope everything works out for the best for the substitute teacher.

Author:  Ben Crawford [ Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:35 am ]
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I actually viewed this video on youtube and right away my jaw dropped. In the video the substitute says that the student hit her in the face as she was walking out of the classroom as the bell rang, which started the whole fight. In this case, no the teacher should have known better not to retaliate back at the student but it does make you think about how vulnerable teachers are and whether or not some kind of self-defense law could come into effect.

On the other hand, the police report stated that the teacher kicked the student earlier which started the brawl. If this is so, then yea, this substitute had it coming to her.

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